Hello to all,

currently, there is an exciting final in

the top group of Ewn-Championship-2.

Watch and bet …

Ingo.

Yes, verry exciting. With only 6 open matches there are still 6 (of 12) players which can get 16 points. And 16 points could be enough to win the tournament…

> With only 6 open matches there are still 6 (of 12)

> players which can get 16 points.

And, there is the possibility that the Championship

will end in a 5-way-tie. Assume the following outcomes:

Hanfried - Fraggle 2-0

Telestes - Blackhat 2-0

Telestes - Fraggle 2-0

Fraggle - Blackhat 2-0

Fraggle - Graff 2-0

Fraggle - sZamBa

This would result in a standing, where

each of Hanfried, Telestes, Fraggle, Theo van der Storm,

and LuiseR had 16 points, each.

> Yes, very exciting. With only 6 open matches there are still 6 (of 12)

> players which can get 16 points. And 16 points could be enough

> to win the tournament…

Here's an example where Telestes wins before luiser(!):

3 Theo va 1758(1788) 2 2 0 0 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 16 140

2 luiser 1681(1788) 0 0 2 2 2 0 2 2 2 2 2 16 152

6 hanfrie 1753(1837) 0 2 0 2 0 2 0 2 2 2 2 14 128

5 blackha 1748(1826) 2 0 2 0 2 0 2 2 2 0 2 14 144

1 Teleste 1794(1785) 2 0 0 2 2 2 0 2 2 2 2 16 156

3 fraggle 1800(1847) 2 0 2 0 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 16 140

7 klaasha 1541(1586) 0 2 0 2 0 0 2 0 2 2 0 10 96

8 Jonny i 1375(1807) 0 0 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 2 8 76

9 Pawel G 1653(1639) 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 2 2 8 52

10 graff i 1666(1631) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 2 0 6 40

11 sZamBa_ 1728(1610) 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 4 36

12 ypercub 1757(1617) 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 4 32

spreadsheet:

http://home.wanadoo.nl/thstorm/EWN/champ2.xls

It doesn't look very good for me :-(

Theo

PS: I recommend not betting with me.

I might be running a VBA Excel macro to check all possibilities :-)

> With only 6 open matches there are still 6 (of 12)

> players which can get 16 points.

> And, there is the possibility that the Championship

> will end in a 5-way-tie.

That's how you can look at it, but it seems LG considers it a tie only when points AND Son(nenborn-Berger) are equal.

I just added a spin button (no VBA macro) to reach the baffling conclusion at the bottom of the spreadsheet!

The two “silicon brains” fraggle_c and me finish our match. This was the most thrilling match I ever played. Look at the last 6 moves of the 1., 4. and 5. game and you will see, what I mean. At the end the dice made the desicion and now only three players are left, which can win the tournament:

fraggle_c, blackhat and me. But I can only sit and wait.

Hmm, as far as I can see I think also Theo can win the tournament. O am I wrong? :-)

I meant 'Or', not 'O'…

> Hmm, as far as I can see I think also Theo can win the tournament.

> O am I wrong? :-)

You are wrong :-(

Unfortunately the best I could hope for yesterday and still can hope for now is this (copy to Notepad):

N Name Rating 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Pts Son

2 Theo va 1758(1788) 2 2 0 0 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 16 152

3 luiser 1681(1788) 0 0 2 2 2 0 2 2 2 2 2 16 148

1 hanfrie 1753(1837) 0 2 0 2 2 2 0 2 2 2 2 16 160

6 blackha 1748(1826) 2 0 2 0 0 0 2 2 2 0 2 12 120

5 Teleste 1794(1785) 2 0 0 2 0 2 0 2 2 2 2 14 128

4 fraggle 1800(1847) 2 0 0 2 2 2 2 2 0 0 2 14 144

7 klaasha 1541(1586) 0 2 0 2 0 0 2 0 2 2 0 10 100

8 Jonny i 1375(1807) 0 0 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 2 8 80

10 Pawel G 1653(1639) 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 2 2 8 56

9 graff i 1666(1631) 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 2 2 2 0 8 72

11 sZamBa_ 1728(1610) 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 6 60

12 ypercub 1757(1617) 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 4 36

Tricky Sonnenborn-Berger points!

Hello Theo,

you in-depth analysis of the winning chances

will give you at least a special prize for

“Best Meta Analysis”

from the winner of the previous championship.

Cheers, Ingo.

PS: The prize will be a “Meta-Wurst” (or Met-Wurst

for short), how we call it in German.

@ Theo

I have some feeling that something is wrong in your tableaux: hanfried_c has only 140 sons, not 160. ;-)

> @ Theo

> I have some feeling that something is wrong in your tableaux:

> hanfried_c has only 140 sons, not 160. ;-)

Apart from the fact that I didn't win there's nothing wrong with it.

As I wrote, it is what I could hope for, so it's a POSSIBLE FINAL OUTCOME.

I concluded with “Tricky Sonnenborn-Berger points!“,

because those points change more significantly and more to my disadvantage

then I expected.

Perhaps you didn't realise the SON points still keep changing for any finished player who has beaten a player, who scores additional points.

I hope this helps for your understanding.

Hm, I read this the first time. Interesting info. Now I will try to stop making stupid comments. ;-))

I lost to fraggle_c, so any senarios where I won can be tossed out.

> Hello Theo,

> you in-depth analysis of the winning chances

> will give you at least a special prize for “Best Meta Analysis”

> from the winner of the previous championship.

> Cheers, Ingo.

> PS: The prize will be a “Meta-Wurst” (or Met-Wurst

> for short), how we call it in German.

Thanks Ingo,

In the Netherlands we are familiar with “metworst”, sometimes called

“boeren metworst” (farmer's sausage) readily available in butcher shops.

The way of thinking “we” mathematicians have (if you don't mind me using the word “we”) in combination with my IT skills, made my little exercise in discrete mathematics inevitable.

Theo

Dear Theo,

> In the Netherlands we are familiar with

> “metworst”, sometimes called “boeren metworst”

> (farmer's sausage) readily available in butcher

> shops.

So, you have some expectation what you

will get at our next “meeting”…

> The way of thinking “we” mathematicians have

> (if you don't mind me using the word “we”)

The “we” is very ok and justified, for instance

having in mind the genius “Storm chains” in the

evaluation function of your computer program for

EinStein wurfelt nicht.

> in combination with my IT skills, made my little

> exercise in discrete mathematics inevitable.

It is very nice stuff. And, believe it or not, I

will use it in the advanced course on “Experimental

Optimization” at Jena University in next summer semester.

Best wishes, Ingo.

> It is very nice stuff. And, believe it or not, I

> will use it in the advanced course on “Experimental

> Optimization” at Jena University in next summer semester.

That's nice to hear! I believe you should then have the version with VBA macro,

which reveals additional surprises, e.g. about who could and could not finish on third place.

http://home.wanadoo.nl/thstorm/EWN/champ2m.xls

Your students will then get a feel, that with only a few lines of dedicated code, the tool gets a lot more powerful for analysis purposes.

Please let me know if you have trouble running the macro using the blue buttons. Then I can “Save As” to an older version of Excel and provide that one to you.

Cheers, Theo

Dear Theo,

your Excel-site

http://home.wanadoo.nl/thstorm/EWN/champ2m.xls

is a fantastic piece of work.

The macro button actions are fine on my machine.

Please, let it online until end of July, 2007.

Best regards, Ingo.