Who wins in this game? Hex, Havannah

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Who wins in this game?
  • ypercube at 2008-11-03

    In the following game, White has just played i2. Black is thinking of resigning.

    Is there a way for Black to avoid defeat?

    [game;id:959952;move:46;title:Black to play (and win?)]

  • wccanard at 2008-11-03

    [perhaps worth clarifying that the game has now finished on the server, so yper's question is “theoretical”]

  • Marius Halsor at 2008-11-03

    That was rather obvious, wccanard - I'd never suspect Ypercube of asking for the solution to an ongoing game! :-)

  • Michal Piszczalka(piszczyk) at 2008-11-03

    There's no short way to black win :P

    I1 or H1, A15, H7 :P To make game longer but not sure about end result :P

    I nead a program to check it offline :P Can I get it somewhere??

  • ab at 2008-11-03

    here are coordinates:

    (A15 does not exist here …)

    But: black wins in the game, so you should ask: did white make a mistake?

  • Michal Piszczalka(piszczyk) at 2008-11-03

    e12 it should be :P sorry ;D

  • ypercube at 2008-11-04

    You are right ab (and Marius).

    Black did win the game, after playing the obvious h1 defense first.

    So, a better question is. Where did White make the mistake and how could he have won?

  • Ed Collins at 2008-11-04

    50.A6 by White was a complete waste of time.

    Without looking at it too long or too deeply, after 49.B5 by Black, my first reaction is for White to play something like 50.D5. This threatens a ring by playing at C6. Black must block in that area and then White can then play 51.C3 and prevent Black from connecting along the A edge.

    I think White was ignoring or missing your threats during the last for or five moves.

  • ypercube at 2008-11-04

    You are right.

    Marius suggests 48.j1 for White instead of the 48.a1

  • Marius Halsor at 2008-11-04

    48.j1 49.a1 50.c2, and I don't see any hope for black?

  • fallinsky at 2008-11-04

    You meant i1, no ?

    I think i1 is clearly the logical move : blocks the lower black group from making a fork and you still have one turn to block it from being a bridge.

  • Marius Halsor at 2008-11-04

    Yes, I mean i1, of course…

  • bennok ★ at 2008-11-04

    After 47.h1, 48.a1 wasn't necessary. Bridges are easily cut. White should have played 48. i1 instead killing the black stones!

    49.a1 50.a2 51.b1 52.c2!

  • bennok ★ at 2008-11-04

    Silly me: I realise Marius and alda commented the right move!

  • bennok ★ at 2008-11-04

    For Richard: It would be nice to have the coordinates on every board as an option.

  • powerrade at 2008-11-04

    o co chodzi w tej grze

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