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Ranking graph

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#1 · Greck

1 Sep 2010

Hi!

This is a silly suggestion, but not only for Richard. It's for any programmer, as the idea doesn't involve a lot server access.

The idea is to have a graph not only of the rating, as currently we have, but of the ranking (the position in the list of players).

Everyday, at a given hour, the list of players in every game can be retrieved, and the position of every player stored. This way you can your relative progression in the game from a different point of view :)

what do you think?

#3 · MichaeI X

1 Sep 2010

The overall rating should remain constant, so ranking should not differ from rating too much (similar to median vs. mean ).

IMO it's not much more information at the cost of a doubled archive of values.

Additionally: Do you want to trend your rank absolute (96) or relative (96/1154) ?

I'm sure Richard won't implement it ( Even if you wish it with your membership fee ;)

But your time driven proposal would work for any external web app as well.

Well, if anyone is looking for a task for his useless mysql database, feel free and tell where to find the result ...

#4 · Greck

1 Sep 2010

I'm not sure of what you mean, but i'm sure that you can have an increasing rating graph, but decreasing ranking graph.

In the long term I'm not sure that rating graph reflects your strength progression, but ranking probably does.

#5 · Duke of Prunes

1 Sep 2010

I have a similar suggestion, probably easier to do. I would be interested in historical partecipation to championships. I will try to explain: in fir.ch.21 i was in 5, then ch.22.4, ch.23.3, ch.24.4 and so on...

So, I wish I can see my ch.LEVELS in a graph. Maybe "absolute" (5,4,3,4,4,3...) or "relative" to how many levels there were in this Championship. (Being ch.1 in OSKI is not the same of being ch.1 in GO!!)

#6 · Greck

1 Sep 2010

That information doesn't vanish with time. You can go and check anytime you want. :)

#7 · Duke of Prunes

1 Sep 2010

true, but it is boring to do... its boring to see how MANY championships level there were in gmk.ch.15, for example. And would like to see my opponents's story, for example, in a second, without checking lots of data. (Like I do watching his rating history!)

#8 · Greck

1 Sep 2010

maybe time to ask RoRoRo? :P

#9 · MichaeI X

1 Sep 2010

@GregorIo:

I'm not sure of what you mean

The average rating of all players is 1500.

Of course there might be 7 inactive players with a rating of 1400, compensated by two champions of 1900 and 1800. If you have a rating of 1500, you're average according to rating, but 3rd of 10 according to rank.

My point is: If you ignore such effects, there's not much difference.

i'm sure that you can have an increasing rating graph, but decreasing ranking graph.

Sure, if the overall distribution changes its shape (becomes more biased or more symmetric or wider or more narrow), this might affect rating/ranking numbers differently.

Yes, not sure if RoRoRo has an unused database looking for long term archive tasks, but I'm sure after his recent move he now has a fast and idle cpu looking for boring tasks ;)

#10 · FatPhil

1 Sep 2010

Ranking's not an unambiguous number - do you include retired players or not?

For the sake of Richard's server, RoRoRo doesn't want to generate any more queries than absolutely necessary.

#11 · Greck

1 Sep 2010

by ranking I understand your position in the list of players (whatever criteria there are to be excluded/included in that list).

if you think that this would be a lot of queries, then just forget it :)