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Congrats to takodori! First human ever to break the 2000 barrier for Shogi!

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#1 · Aganju

22 Apr 2011

At least I hope so. He might be a Japanese master of the game, who knows.

#2 · Ray Garrison

22 Apr 2011

I would not be surprised if he is a master. He seems to be much stronger than everyone else. I seem to be a decent shogi player, but when I play takodori, he makes me feel like a complete patzer. I am fairly confident that his rating will only continue to go up from 2000.

#3 · erratic

22 Apr 2011

Don't know much about shogi, but some Japanese computer go authors are also computer shogi authors, specially Hiroshi Yamashita. I have heard them say computer shogi is at the moment 50-50 between the top bots and the top humans. Somewhat like chess 15 years ago. So unless you can tell if you are playing a bot from its style, there is no way to tell the difference between the best human player and the average cheater.

#4 · Aganju

23 Apr 2011

ok, but just because he beats everyone at LG does not make him a master, neither a cheater. After all, someone on LG is bound to be the best human player, and it could as well be him.

We do not really have a feel yet for how good anyone on LG is in Shogi (well, I don't). If we are all beginners - within the blind, the one-eyed is king?

#5 · erratic

23 Apr 2011

Of course. I am not pointing at anyone. Just saying that shogi is just like chess a game in which cheating is easy (turn based).