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Middle post game running to january 15th

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#1 · Hjallti

4 Jan 2012

The winner is the player making the middle post in this threat.

To avoid strange moves... a player with 2 consecutive posts is not counted.

other rules are in the other thread.

#4 · FatPhil

4 Jan 2012

I think you both deserve it!

#5 · kfiecio

4 Jan 2012

There can be only one winner. Look on the rules in the 2012 middle post game, any thoughts regarding the extra anti spam rules? The no double post rule is actually for that reason. Do we need some extra complications to avoid spamming strategy?

richyfourtytwo is in the lead for now and after next post also.

#7 · ypercube

4 Jan 2012

@kfiecio: "There can be only one winner.". Are you sure?

My bet is that there may be more (or less) than 1 winner.

#8 · kfiecio

4 Jan 2012

Well in this game by rules set by me can by only one winner. Although this game as I mentioned in other topic has no definite end since members can delete their posts after 15th influencing the results. I chose this instead of forbidding the post deletion and establishing a "policeman" to enforce this rule. And there can be actually 2 or 1 winner. 1 in open category and second excluding members. So far I am the only member at the moment playing this game so if I will post frequently enough it will be easy to win the open category, but if some of you will become member even after 15th can alter the results. So technically there is no winner in this game only current leader(s). Do we need some definite and to the game, will it be more fun then?

Sorry for a bit messy comment @ypercube I feel your comment is more of a philosophical nature. Like I played monopoly with a lot younger cousin it was getting late so we finished letting her win and declaring myself a moral winner. She didn't know that expression yet so she accepted it and was bragging about it to her parents including my "moral victory" :)

#9 · HayashiMinoru

4 Jan 2012

my bet is that not, as the winner in case of 2n final entries is the one who has the n-entry

#10 · KPT

4 Jan 2012

this is too much for me.

#11 · kfiecio

4 Jan 2012

Two other members posted so maybe there will be some fight on deleted posts after 15th

#13 · Hjallti

5 Jan 2012

How do you know who is member? Apparantly your remark about only 1 member was wrong, so I just wonder...

#14 · kfiecio

5 Jan 2012

@ Hjallti Sorry for that. I was checking profiles. I must have somehow miss that you are also a member.

@ ypercube Only members can delete their posts. As I mentioned instead of forbidding that in rules and trusting all will follow this rule I decided to allow this and have separate category for non members. Note that you can become a member and stop being a member also, so the game with this rule never ends unless Hjallti will delete first post.

#16 · Robert Mathew

5 Jan 2012

just need 15 people to post after me and i will win :-)

#17 · MichaeI X

5 Jan 2012

@kfiecio > you can become a member and stop being a member

not sure about that.

I guess there's no automatic procedure. Don't know how Richard checks when membership times out, but there are delays... Becoming a member is pretty fast, but probably still requires a manual entry after Richard gets an email from paypal.

Stopping your own membership is as difficult as stopping anyone elses membership. Just try and send a Message to webmaster

Anyway, Hjallti started this thread and will happily act as umpire, eventually clarifying (changing) his own rules, even after 15-Jan ;)

Sure a member can change the winner slightly by deleting a couple of his own entries between 16-Jan 00:00 and the time the thread owner (referee) takes a snapshot of the thread, but usually a member would rather reduce his own chance to win by deleting his own entries.

Now let's stop here and see how many finishing entries will happen on 15-Jan ;)

#18 · kfiecio

5 Jan 2012

I didn't mean you can stop your own membership manually I don't even know when mine membership ends but it will end eventually. I presented this "middle post" type of game in other thread. This is kind of test version of it. There is no discussion about some advanced rules preventing a very spammy game. I had one solution in previous threat. How about a limited number of post allowed like 5 or 3 (or even 1 :)) . I think we will play this game with current rules and later start a new one with slightly changed rules. So far only I proposed some rule modifications preventing a spammy game. I like the number of posts restriction more it is less complicated. If someone will have more posts than allowed then his posts still count to the total number but he cant be declared a winner.

As for deleting your own entries being not a good strategy you just have to wait till other members will delete their first :)

#20 · kfiecio

5 Jan 2012

Post counting is getting difficult. This is 20th post and kpato is in the lead.

#21 · na_wspak

5 Jan 2012

maybe it would be useful to implement a rule that only posts that have their actual position included should be counted and the other treated just like a comments.

[post #21]

#22 · kfiecio

5 Jan 2012

I like this Idea the required valid post form helps form a more interesting game without post removal. below example

post#58,(38,x50),(58,x20)

Where [post#58] is the post number later are all players post in the game with their post points multipliers. If game ends with 100 posts 50th post will get 100 points 51th 99points 49th post will get 98 points, 52th 97 and so on. The sum of multipliers will be of course restricted. The total number of player points is a sum of points for a post multiplied by assigned by player multipliers. The player with most points wins. Tiebreaker can be closest to middle post.

#23 · FatPhil

5 Jan 2012

does that mean this is post #22 (if kfiecio's isn't valid), or post #23?

#24 · kfiecio

5 Jan 2012

This games runs by basic rules. No double post closest valid post to the middle one wins. The rest is just a discussion about most suitable variant for a whole year game. I think one post a day will by also good rule to prevent spam in the last day of the competition.

As for legal post in the new discussed variant. No post in this topic is valid the first valid post should look like

post#1

Parameters to discussed are the total multiplier and eventual different point distribution to the posts more favoring the middle post like some kind of exponentiation or polynomial formula. Like in 100 posts game 50th post will get (100)^2 points 51th (99)^2 points 49th post will get (98)^2 points, 52th (97)^2 and so on.

#25 · Hjallti

11 Jan 2012

So here we continue with the original rules

#28 · Hjallti

18 Jan 2012

If my count is right: kfeico - Got Twixt - Hjallti - ...

#30 · MichaeI X

19 Jan 2012

I can apply the Delete exercise.

It does not help me win, but it makes Hjallti's decision less clear ;)

And his "How do you know" entry is winning