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#1 · morton

18 Dec 2002

Is this someone knows a link of a Internet site to leave of which we can download a freeware of the game of Hex, for the version played on Golem (13x13)?
Freeware that functions on PC with Windows 98 or +.

#4 · David J Bush

18 Dec 2002

Yes, Jhex is a great virtual board for analyzing and storing games. I find it very useful in my games; it's a lot handier than a physical hex set. You can examine an entire branching tree of variations, not just a single line. It handles all size grids up to 24x24. It doesn't PLAY the game, understand; it just reminds me of variations I worked out when my turn comes around again. In addition to the link Bill has provided, you also need a Java Runtime Environment (which is also free.) Here is a link for that: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/

#5 · morton

18 Dec 2002

I thank all those that already answered me.
I see that I should have specified my question further.
I make it here:
- I look for a program against which we can play and with a board of 13x13
- Hexy is a program against which we can play but he only permits a board of 11x11 to the maximum and its level of game is very weak
- Jhex allows the board of 13x13 but he doesn't permit to play against the computer.
In conclusion, is necessary it to think that the program that I search for exists not again?

#6 · David J Bush

19 Dec 2002

There is no program that I know of, that plays Hex on any grid larger than 11x11. I believe that is one reason why Richard chose 13x13- there is no temptation for players to cheat by using a program. We humans still hold the advantage on the larger boards.

#7 · Bill LeBoeuf

28 Dec 2002

I believe Dave is optimistic (?pessimistic) in thinking computers cant play good games on large boards. For better or for worse there is not the slightest doubt in my mind that within a few years no human will be able to touch a computer at chess, go, or hex, especially on large size boards. Likely less than 10 years, for certain, less than 20.

#8 · Ed Collins

29 Dec 2002

Hi Bill. I believe your 2nd sentence would be more accurate if you said "... especially on SMALL size boards." It's the larger boards that give computer programs a hard time in games like GO, Hex, Twixt, etc. Programmers have been attempting to write a master GO program for many years, and have little to show for it. A few years ago, Dr. Piet Hut, an astrophysicist at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, N.J., and a fan of the game of GO said, "It may be a hundred years before a computer beats humans at Go -- maybe even longer." I certainly don't necessarily agree with THAT but it does show you how some people feel. I would probably bet that the best human GO players are still able to defeat the best computer GO programs ten years from now. Not sure about twenty years... Here's one of many links concerning GO and programming: http://www.ishipress.com/times-go.htm

#9 · Bill LeBoeuf

29 Dec 2002

Ed, to paraphrase General Maximus in The Gladiator: The time for humans to be honoring their intelligence will soon be over.