Mini-Shogi Championship #3

I'll ask RoRoRo to post its predictions for this tournament

Actually, I'm now afraid of doing so: to properly do so I should send a message with a subject that is (apparently) one character longer than allowed here in LG. I could try to send it without the closing parenthesis, but am not sure which effect that would have on RoRoRo. will question Phil on that.

Hey, I just realized that Shogi has 2 Championships! "Normal" and "Mini".

Are there other games here in LG with several type of Championships?

WYPS: English, English Small, Numeric, German, French, Spanish, Italian

Go: 19x19, Hahn, Sunjang, 13x13, 9x9

Shogi: Shogi, Mini

Hex: 19x19, 13x13

Reversi: 10x10, 8x8

I think that's it... and for Hex, Reversi, and Go different board sizes, those are treated as unique games.

That still leaves the WYPS variants, Go Hahn and Go Sunjang and Shogi Mini as variant championships in addition to the main championship.

Ok, I finally did ask (with a lot of help from Phil) RoRoRo for its prediction. Let's hope it will work (RoRoRo might not know that shogi tournaments belong to chess fora).

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Please

• I've been requested to follow shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1 by MRFvR
  

For info on how these predictions are calculated see mypredictions web page.
- Already completed matches:

Games completed: 3/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1Rob(1671)-2__2____443.46%0.53%2Karthum(1863)0-__2____208.34%1.03%3MRFvR(1669)__-______000.78%0.16%4halladba(1653)___-_____000.52%0.15%5kenjuggle(1707)00__-____000.15%0.05%6Jorge Gómez(1746)_____-___003.02%0.40%7kingofthebesI(1753)______-__003.42%0.48%8mirari(1823)_______-_009.40%0.93%9takodori(2023)________-0068.42%1.74%

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• Karthum 0 - 2 takodori
  

Games completed: 4/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1Rob(1677)-_2____2_442.76%0.39%2takodori(2036)_-2______2479.77%1.39%3Karthum(1871)00-____2_200.78%0.40%4MRFvR(1657)___-_____000.39%0.10%5Jorge Gómez(1746)____-____002.18%0.35%6halladba(1653)_____-___000.38%0.10%7kingofthebesI(1758)______-__002.82%0.39%8kenjuggle(1695)0_0____-_000.12%0.05%9mirari(1836)________-008.98%0.72%

3 more games have finished by now... RoRoRo, where are your predictions?

I think RoRoRo's predictions are dormant. He probably crashed and somewhy FatPhil hasn't been able to restart him.

I don't think the championship can be taken too serious anyway. The people in the first league are not necessarily the best MiniShogi players on LG, but just the ones that happened to catch the ten hours window to register for the first championship. All other players ended in league 2 or 3, without getting a chance (yet) to prove their abilities.

This will be the case for a while, as only two can be promoted up each championship. Could well be that 90% of the top players were in leagues 2 or 3, and only in championship 4 or 5 the first league will be really 'first'.

@Aganju - I beg to differ. Although I don't consider myself as one of the strongest, after playing the 3rd league in first championship (when we shared the first place but you won on TB), I came second to Rob in second championship's second league. Therefore I'm quite proud of playing the first league. The fact that I'll most probably be quicked backed to where I belong doesn't make me less proud, on the contrary.

It IS true, some of the stronger players are not here (you and Ray, for instance), but still its by no means a weak tournament. Although I don't consider myself as a strong player, I do consider myself as able to judge who those are. And, IMHO, Karthum, kingofthebesI, mirari and takodori are clearly amongst the stronger players.

If you are just #mimimi-ing about not being here as well (hope that's not the case), you probably would, had you played the second league as well.

I feel like I am very strong at mini shogi (not so much at full board shogi), yet I was knocked down to the second tier this time because the second championship was actually very strong and I finished 6th with 4 wins of 8 games. I lost to Mirari who is very very strong (currently 29 and 2 and he has beaten takadori). I lost to takadori, as I always do, he is a famous shogi professional. Jorge Gomez and halladaba just played very strong and beat me, their records are good but not outstanding, but they are just two tough players regardless of the game. I put up a very tough fight in all of them (but takadori destroyed me quickly). Karthum is another player whom I consider to be a shogi master, his record is 127-15. In full board shogi, he schools me, and usually he does so in mini shogi also, but I did manage to beat him with a nice combination in championship #2. Yet, I still got knocked down to the second tier, so I have to disagree with you, Aganju. Championship #3 is loaded with strong players, apparently too tough for me. Perhaps one or two of the newbies are weaker than would normally be expected, but then again, maybe not. We shall see!

I hear you. Two people who's opinion I value agree, so I will have to reconsider my statement.

Maybe my memory was not that good; I cannot even remember playing the second championship (but it looks like I did). I stand corrected.

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• takodori 2 - 0 Rob
  
• kenjuggle 0 - 2 MRFvR
  
• kingofthebesI 0 - 2 takodori
  
• kenjuggle 0 - 2 takodori
  
• kenjuggle 0 - 2 mirari
  

Games completed: 9/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2064)-2__2__2281288.55%0.69%2Rob(1680)0-__2___2440.19%0.10%3MRFvR(1692)__-_____2200.69%0.10%4mirari(1841)___-____2207.87%0.46%5Karthum(1880)00__-___2200.21%0.22%6Jorge Gómez(1746)_____-___001.32%0.14%7halladba(1662)______-__000.24%0.04%8kingofthebesI(1753)0______-_000.13%0.09%9kenjuggle(1669)00000___-0000

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• MRFvR 0 - 2 takodori
  
• MRFvR 2 - 0 halladba
  

Games completed: 11/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2067)-22_2__22102090.43%0.45%2Rob(1680)0-__2___2440.11%0.05%3MRFvR(1703)0_-___2_2400.06%0.06%4mirari(1841)___-____2207.50%0.32%5Karthum(1880)00__-___2200.11%0.10%6Jorge Gómez(1746)_____-___001.14%0.11%7halladba(1648)__0___-__000.08%0.01%8kingofthebesI(1753)0______-_000.08%0.03%9kenjuggle(1669)00000___-0000

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• kingofthebesI 2 - 0 kenjuggle
  

Games completed: 12/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2033)-222_2__2102489.11%0.57%2Rob(1680)0-___2__2440.11%0.08%3MRFvR(1703)0_-____22400.06%0.08%4kingofthebesI(1765)0__-____2200.19%0.11%5mirari(1841)____-___2208.31%0.40%6Karthum(1885)00___-__2200.15%0.14%7Jorge Gómez(1746)______-__001.38%0.14%8halladba(1622)__0____-_000.04%0.01%9kenjuggle(1657)000000__-0000

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• kenjuggle 2 - 0 Jorge Gómez
  

Games completed: 13/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2033)-222_22__102890.27%0.51%2Rob(1680)0-___22__480.10%0.07%3MRFvR(1703)0_-___2_2440.07%0.03%4kingofthebesI(1765)0__-__2__240.15%0.09%5mirari(1841)____-_2__248.34%0.42%6Karthum(1885)00___-2__240.08%0.11%7kenjuggle(1677)000000-2_20008Jorge Gómez(1726)______0-_000.40%0.03%9halladba(1622)__0_____-000.02%0.01%

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• Jorge Gómez 0 - 2 Karthum
  

Games completed: 14/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2036)-2222_2__103290.60%0.53%2Rob(1680)0-_2__2__4120.11%0.06%3MRFvR(1703)0_-___2_2440.06%0.05%4Karthum(1894)00_-__22_440.13%0.16%5kingofthebesI(1765)0___-_2__240.15%0.06%6mirari(1841)_____-2__248.26%0.37%7kenjuggle(1677)000000-2_20008Jorge Gómez(1717)___0__0-_000.12%0.01%9halladba(1622)__0_____-000.02%0.00%

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• mirari 2 - 0 Rob
  

Games completed: 15/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2036)-2_2222__103287.41%0.52%2Rob(1671)0-0_2_2__4120.00%03mirari(1850)_2-___2__41211.61%0.37%4MRFvR(1707)0__-__2_2440.05%0.05%5Karthum(1894)00__-_22_440.16%0.19%6kingofthebesI(1765)0____-2__240.12%0.09%7kenjuggle(1691)000000-2_20008Jorge Gómez(1717)____0_0-_000.09%0.01%9halladba(1622)___0____-000.01%0.00%

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• mirari 2 - 0 Jorge Gómez
  
• Jorge Gómez 0 - 2 halladba
  

Games completed: 17/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2036)-_2222_2_103284.23%0.54%2mirari(1859)_-2____2261214.76%0.39%3Rob(1671)00-_2__2_4120.00%04MRFvR(1707)0__-__22_480.09%0.06%5Karthum(1894)0_0_-__22440.13%0.16%6kingofthebesI(1765)0____-_2_240.13%0.10%7halladba(1642)___0__-_2200.09%0.01%8kenjuggle(1691)000000_-220009Jorge Gómez(1688)_0__0_00-0000

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• Jorge Gómez 0 - 2 Rob
  

Games completed: 18/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2036)-_2222_2_103684.65%0.48%2mirari(1859)_-2____2261614.55%0.42%3Rob(1687)00-_2__226120.01%0.00%4MRFvR(1707)0__-__22_480.07%0.07%5Karthum(1894)0_0_-__22440.05%0.08%6kingofthebesI(1765)0____-_2_240.10%0.14%7halladba(1642)___0__-_2200.06%0.01%8kenjuggle(1691)000000_-220009Jorge Gómez(1672)_00_0_00-0000

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• MRFvR 2 - 0 Jorge Gómez
  

Games completed: 19/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2036)-_2222_2_104084.47%0.46%2mirari(1859)_-2____2261614.63%0.40%3Rob(1687)00-_2__226120.01%04MRFvR(1721)0__-__222680.12%0.14%5Karthum(1894)0_0_-__22440.09%0.08%6kingofthebesI(1765)0____-_2_240.15%0.11%7halladba(1642)___0__-_2200.05%0.02%8kenjuggle(1691)000000_-220009Jorge Gómez(1658)_0000_00-0000

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• takodori 2 - 0 Jorge Gómez
  

Games completed: 20/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2047)-_2222_22124085.76%0.39%2mirari(1859)_-2____2261613.59%0.34%3Rob(1687)00-_2__22612004MRFvR(1721)0__-__222680.06%0.12%5Karthum(1894)0_0_-__22440.04%0.07%6kingofthebesI(1765)0____-_2_240.08%0.11%7halladba(1642)___0__-_2200.07%0.01%8kenjuggle(1691)000000_-220009Jorge Gómez(1655)00000_00-0000

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• Jorge Gómez 0 - 2 kingofthebesI
  

Games completed: 21/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2049)-_2222_22124486.25%0.49%2mirari(1859)_-2____2261613.04%0.45%3Rob(1687)00-__2_22612004MRFvR(1721)0__-__222680.04%0.11%5kingofthebesI(1780)0___-__22440.09%0.25%6Karthum(1894)0_0__-_22440.04%0.05%7halladba(1642)___0__-_2200.04%0.01%8kenjuggle(1691)000000_-220009Jorge Gómez(1645)00000000-0000

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• halladba 0 - 2 kenjuggle
  

Games completed: 22/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2049)-_22222_2124886.30%0.41%2mirari(1859)_-2___2_262013.17%0.38%3Rob(1687)00-__22_2616004MRFvR(1708)0__-__2226120.02%0.08%5kingofthebesI(1780)0___-_2_2480.06%0.20%6Karthum(1908)0_0__-2_2480.01%0.04%7kenjuggle(1704)000000-2244008halladba(1629)___0__0-2200.01%09Jorge Gómez(1645)00000000-0000

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• mirari 2 - 0 Karthum
  

Games completed: 23/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2049)-_22222_2124877.45%0.77%2mirari(1877)_-2__22_282821.68%0.76%3Rob(1687)00-__22_2616004MRFvR(1708)0__-__2226120.03%0.20%5kingofthebesI(1780)0___-_2_2480.07%0.52%6Karthum(1890)000__-2_248007kenjuggle(1704)000000-2244008halladba(1629)___0__0-2200.00%09Jorge Gómez(1645)00000000-0000

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• mirari 2 - 0 halladba
  
• takodori 2 - 0 halladba
  

Games completed: 25/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2051)-_2222222145275.17%0.97%2mirari(1883)_-2__2222103223.86%0.97%3Rob(1687)00-__22_2616004MRFvR(1708)0__-__22261200.28%5kingofthebesI(1780)0___-_2_24800.69%6Karthum(1890)000__-2_248007kenjuggle(1704)000000-2244008halladba(1621)00_0__0-220009Jorge Gómez(1645)00000000-0000

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• halladba 0 - 2 Rob
  
• halladba 0 - 2 Karthum
  

Games completed: 27/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2051)-_2222222146075.09%0.88%2mirari(1883)_-22__222104024.02%0.88%3Rob(1699)00-2__222824004Karthum(1895)000-__222612005MRFvR(1708)0___-_22261200.23%6kingofthebesI(1780)0____-2_24800.66%7kenjuggle(1704)000000-2244008halladba(1604)00000_0-220009Jorge Gómez(1645)00000000-0000

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• Karthum 2 - 0 MRFvR
  

Games completed: 28/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2056)-_2222222146475.36%0.60%2mirari(1883)_-22__222104424.03%0.60%3Rob(1699)00-2__222828004Karthum(1924)000-2_222824005MRFvR(1677)0__0-_222612006kingofthebesI(1780)0____-2_24800.60%7kenjuggle(1714)000000-2244008halladba(1593)00000_0-220009Jorge Gómez(1645)00000000-0000

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• Karthum 0 - 2 kingofthebesI
  

Games completed: 29/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2056)-_2222222146875.38%2.75%2mirari(1883)_-22__222104421.87%2.75%3Rob(1699)00-2__222828004Karthum(1902)000-02222824005kingofthebesI(1802)0__2-_2_262402.75%6MRFvR(1667)0__0_-222612007kenjuggle(1714)000000-2244008halladba(1593)0000_00-220009Jorge Gómez(1645)00000000-0000

Tournament: shogi.cv.MINISHOGI.3.1.1

Newly completed matches:

• takodori 2 - 0 mirari
  

Games completed: 30/36

NPlayerRating123456789ScoreSonp(win)p(draw)1takodori(2064)-222222221688100.00%02mirari(1875)0-22__2221044003Rob(1699)00-2__222828004Karthum(1906)000-02222824005kingofthebesI(1802)0__2-_2_2624006MRFvR(1667)0__0_-222612007kenjuggle(1714)000000-2244008halladba(1593)0000_00-220009Jorge Gómez(1645)00000000-0000

Congratulations to takodori for winning with a flawless score!