Oski Championship "two"

Would RoRoRo please place predictions.

Would be good if he also added a prediction that took into account who starts when there is enough data as to how big an edge starting is!

You've now got permission to ask him for oksi predictions.

When anyone thinks there's enough data to work out how much of an effect being p1 has, please suggest something.

by now I think P1 is a disadvantage.

In the first moves, P2 can make a one-longer word than P1 (because there is one more letter out. After some moves, this advantage is gone, and it stays symmetrical till the end of the game. So if P2 manages to get one or two words in the beginning that are one longer (5 over 4 in his first move, and maybe 7 over 6 in his second move), he just has to carry this lead home. Not a sure win, but an advantage.

Starting is a disadvantage I clicked send too quickly!

There are some real nightmare start scenarios, that I consider practically resignable against very good word game players.

As to determining how much advantage going 2nd look at the results between the recent games between the top "n" players (with "n" being the number necessary for statistical validity).

Whenever there is a strong bot is produced that plays the game you'll get be able get enough data to have a very accurate result.

How do I phrase my request to get RoRoRo to post his predictions.

Starting is a disadvantage I clicked send too quickly!

There are some real nightmare start scenarios, that I consider practically resignable against very good word game players.

As to determining how much advantage going 2nd look at the results between the recent games between the top "n" players (with "n" being the number necessary for statistical validity).

Whenever there is a strong bot is produced that plays the game you'll get be able get enough data to have a very accurate result.

How do I phrase my request to get RoRoRo to post his predictions.

I agree with the above. Based upon my games, and the games of others that I've observed, Player 2 definitely has an advantage. I think there is no debate on that.

My estimate is that advantage is greater than 1 point, but less than 3 points. Probably 2.x points, or somewhere in that neighborhood.

Send RoRoRo a message with subject 'predict help' for info.

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I was trying to get this thread as a prediction thread, rather than rehash the issue of how big an edge is for the second which there is already a thread!! Though obviously the issue of the start edge is relevant to garnering an accurate prediction!

I'd say 2.x points on average may be a reasonable prediction the worst positions may be 3 or 4 points edge and the best start for the starter between 0-2.

hey this message was not duplicated! Did you find the problem?

It is me or my computer equipment/internet to blame for double posts.