#1 · Hjallti
23 Jan 2009
Please do not post anything here that distracts from the topic. Start a new topic if needed or so.
upcoming championships:
presumably scheduled for March 1st: Havannah
Public forum discussion.
23 Jan 2009
Please do not post anything here that distracts from the topic. Start a new topic if needed or so.
upcoming championships:
presumably scheduled for March 1st: Havannah
23 Jan 2009
The next gomoku championship should start this weekend.
23 Jan 2009
...and the last game in the connect6 championship finished yesterday :-)
23 Jan 2009
gomoku jan 25th
connect6 jan 29th
havannah mar 1st
31 Jan 2009
Dots and boxes ch16 will start 7th of Feb (assuming the timeout daemon happens to be running that day)
1 Feb 2009
How can I check If I qualify for division 1? (havannah championship)
1 Feb 2009
Same here ...
1 Feb 2009
That's a very simply question to answer. It's very low effort - just wait...
1 Feb 2009
Probably the top 9 on the rating list among those registered for the championship at the time when the championship starts.
1 Feb 2009
Oops ...
1 Feb 2009
Hjallti probably wants this conversation to take place in another thread. But imagine you're the webmaster---how would you possibly do it, other than in the way isometry suggests. So I bet that's the right answer.
1 Feb 2009
With Twixt, he planned to take the top 10 and ended up taking the top 11, I guess because there were only two points between 10th and 11th. (It retrospectively took away some of my excitement of having scrambled to be 10th.)
13 Feb 2009
any others coming?
havannah march 1st
17 Feb 2009
In go9 only 7 games need to be completed
In go13 8 groups are unfinished
In go still 32 groups ;-)
17 Feb 2009
rev10: 13 games in 4 groups
17 Feb 2009
In Einstein only 2 games (featuring starsek...)
In dots all 15 groups :-)
The rest I didn't check since I am not interested myself
17 Feb 2009
Word Game 1 game running
Reversi 1 game running
Four in a row 2 games running
Einstein 2 games running
Hex 19x19 5 games running
Chess 7 games running
Go 9x9 7 games running
Breakthrough 11 games running
Reversi 10x10 13 games running
Streetsoccer 14 games running
Go 13x13 14 games running
Hex 13x13 27 games running
DVONN 33 games running
Twixt 76 games running
Lines of Action 99 games running
Go 19x19 135 minimum games running
Amazon 142 games running
Gomoku 307 minimum games running
Connect6 415 minimum games running
Dots and Boxes 606 games running
These are the games running in maximum 15 poules. So I don't know the exact number of games running of go19x19, gomoku and connect6
17 Feb 2009
thx
20 Feb 2009
Word game will start on 27 Februari
Havannah will start on 1 March
4 Mar 2009
bump
17 Mar 2009
Any coming up soon?
17 Mar 2009
reversi and 4 in a row just have 1 game running.
Einstein, breaktrough, go9x9 and hex19x19 is only 1 poule running.
17 Mar 2009
I suspected that one person might be involved in both reversi and 4 in a row, and then it turned out that the same two players were involved in both!
17 Mar 2009
And now it seems that both games are over!
We expect therefore, that Reversi-8 and 4-in-a-row championships will start next Tuesday, 24th of March.
17 Mar 2009
Hex 13x13 is down to 2 games
20 Mar 2009
Reversi8x8 and 4 in a row start on 24 March
Einstein 2 games running, 1 poule
Chess 2 games running, 2 poules
Hex 19x19 2 games running, 1 poule
Go 9x9 2 games running, 1 poule
Hex 13x13 2 games running, 2 poules
Breakthrough 4 games running, 1 poule
Twixt 5 games running, 3 poules
Reversi 10x10 6 games running, 3 poules
Streetsoccer 8 games running, 2 poules
Go 13x13 9 games running, 6 poules
DVONN 12 games running, 5 poules
Lines of Action 15 games running, 6 poules
Gomoku 52 minimum games running, 21 poules
Amazon 55 games running, 7 poules
Connect6 88 minimum games running, 17 poules
Go 19x19 90 minimum games running, 29 poules
Dots and Boxes 132 games running, 13 poules
Word Game 288 games running, 13 poules
Havannah 404 games running, 15 poules
These are the games running in maximum 15 poules. So I don't know the exact number of games running of go19x19, gomoku and connect6.
.. poules mean: how many poules there are where there are games running.
20 Mar 2009
I hope this isn't off-topic, but what is a "poule" please?
20 Mar 2009
poule is sometimes an alternate spelling for "pool", or, poule could also mean a prostitute. However, the word "poule" is not in the OSPD4 (scrabble dictionary). So it is an obscure word. I think he means "pool" or more specifically, how many "groups" (as little golem calls them) are still not yet finished in the entire championship. For example, there are 404 unfinished games of Havannah in 15 different, unfinished "groups"
21 Mar 2009
poule is Dutch for pool; it's the word used at jijbent.nl to describe the first round of a tournament. Hoodiers is Dutch ;-)
21 Mar 2009
While I'm here---hoodiers, did you do that count manually?? Someone should automate it and post here a couple of times a month with a similar summary. Rororo?
21 Mar 2009
@ alain, Ray Garrison: I meant groups.
@wccanard: Yes, I did it manually.
21 Mar 2009
I've heard it observed that Ir you read Dutch words and pronounce them with German (presumably Hochdeutsch) phonetics, the sounds are close enough to English cognates that you can make out what's being written. I'm sure with Frisian, it's even easier. In any case, it's hardly surprising that "poule" meant a pool of players.
21 Mar 2009
@Dvd: what complete twaddle ;-)
28 Mar 2009
Viper lost about 50 games by time-out overnight. Was he holding up any championships? He was holding up a dots and boxes monthly cup, that's why I noticed; I've been monitoring him recently ;-)
28 Mar 2009
Hex 13x13 starting in about 3 days (approx Tue Mar 31)
31 Mar 2009
'poule' is not a dutch word of origin. I would think it's french. It is even when correctly pronounced in dutch not following the rules of dutch pronouncation. (I mean like 'computer' which should be written in dutch 'kompjoeter' it would be written 'poel' or 'poelle' according to its pronouncation).
So it might be right that German and Dutch phonetics are similar (clearly not equal) but it is wrong to apply it to 'poule' which would be pronounced as 'Paul-le' if it were a purely dutch word. (In German it would be 'pulle' with the 'u' almost unhearable).
31 Mar 2009
@Dvd: Don't tell neither Dutch nor Germans, that their language is the same. Espceially the spelling (of both) was invented to emphazise the differences.
For my German eyes, "poule" looks very French (and if it were, it would be 'chicken' with a broad spectrum of meanings, including Ray's explanation), but "pool" is very English.
@alain: thanks for bringing this to our attention.
@wccanard: Im very grateful as well for "twaddle".
There's more to learn here than slang nicknames of genitals. (In GoE recently, if someone interested missed that)
31 Mar 2009
@Michael X: I think twaddle is British English and might not be used in the US.
Related thing: I was giving a talk in U C Berkeley once, and I was referring to something that was not straight, and I said it was "wonky" and continued on. A member of the audience stopped me and asked what "wonky" meant. I was slightly surprised because it was a standard English word as far as I am concerned (I am English). I said "erm...wonky? You don't know what wonky means? It means skewiff" and then continued on. And then someone else stopped me and asked what "skewiff" meant. I was running out of words to describe what I was trying to explain!
31 Mar 2009
PS @Hjallti: the reason I asserted that poule was Dutch for "first round of a tournament" was only that this is how it is used at jijbent.nl. I am not claiming to be any sort of authority at all in Dutch and I am sure your comments are hence more accurate than mine.
31 Mar 2009
@wccanard: I was once at a conference in Romania which was in English, and it happened to be that the first 12 speakers had different nationalities. In such a case you always miss the first 3 sentences of any talk, because you need to refocus on that brand of English (French, Scottish, Chinese, Australian, England-English, German, Romanian, American, Italian). Unfortunately understanding the language was not that much a problem but the math was the biggest problem.
31 Mar 2009
Poule is the French word for chicken, and also for pool. And it's pronounced exactly like "pool", so I guess there where a(nother) cross-channel misunderstanding at some point. And maybe we convinced the Dutch to write it "poule" instead of "pool". We're so influential :)
1 Apr 2009
I wasn't saying Dutch and German were the same. Obviously related, but not the same. In fact, if my father knoew Dutch phonetics rather than German, he might have a harder time reading Dutch than he does. It's the combination of pronouncing it like German and listening to it like English that he says makes it comprehensible.
1 Apr 2009
wccanard: I understand "wonky", but not "skewiff". I also understand "twaddle". (I've lived my whole life in the US). I use "wonky" in conversation, and my wife (also from the US) uses it a lot. I don't actually say "twaddle", at least not much.
Hjallti: Your math conference story is a familiar one. A related joke, many mathematicians may know (or at least can relate to). A math talk should consist of three parts: the first part where everyone understands, the second part where only the experts understand, and the third part where only the speaker understands. However, to save time, most speakers skip right to the third part. :)
(Some people think there should also be a fourth part to the talk, where not even the speaker understands what s/he is saying.)
1 Apr 2009
I'm not surprised you don't know 'skewiff', as that spelling's not even reached the dictionaries yet. You should be able to find it under 'skew-whiff', 'skew-wiff', or 'skew-wift' though. However, the dictionaries are sloppy, and behind the times - I personally would never spell it any other way than how WC spelt it.
1 Apr 2009
I once was at a summer school for graduate student (PhD-students). The first 3 days we gave talks about the basic material to each other (there was some text we had to follow) and the next three days experts would give talks about the state of the art new things. So some chinese expert Xiao decided to give a talk about an article (accepted but not yet published) of my promotor and me. So while everyone turned at me in the audience with some questionmark on their face that I actually wrote that stuff, and was supposed to understand it. Xiao took such an angle on the subject that I was also fully in the dark about it. Xiao was that kind of mathematician that you are wondering if he is the third or the fourth part of the talk :-).
@Paul: "And maybe we convinced the Dutch to write it "poule" instead of "pool". Dutch has been influenced by french more than by english anyway, so it would have been surprizing to get 'pool'.
(In dutch pool (pronounced in the english way) is used as far as I know only for the American variant of snooker, pronounced in the dutch way (with straith o-sound (Like in the english word 'Poland')) it is to indicate a (magnetic) pole or in habitant of Poland. Another mathematical joke from the time that of Cold War when the European Commutity was West-Europe "What is the Circle integral around Western Europe?" The answer is really way over offensive for the Poles, I have to admit, but it dates from the time that we were told they were the enemies (and they were told we were the enemies)...)
By the way: In dutch 'poule' is only used for 'round-robins" and for pool in any other context.
I want to remind everyone on very first sentence of the this topic :-)
2 Apr 2009
LoA has 1 game active only.
5 Apr 2009
go 9x9 should start 2009-04-12
10 Apr 2009
and Einstein start on 13 april, I think
10 Apr 2009
And Streetsoccer should start on 15 april
10 Apr 2009
Go9x9 = start on 12 April
Einstein = start on 13 April
Streetsoccer and Lines of Action will start on 15 April
The rest of the games:
Hex 19x19 1 game running, 1 group
Chess 1 game running, 1 group
Twixt 1 game running, 1 group
Reversi 10x10 2 games running, 1 group
Breakthrough 3 games running, 1 group
Go 13x13 5 games running, 3 groups
DVONN 8 games running, 3 groups
Gomoku 17 games running, 9 groups
Amazon 18 games running, 4 groups
Connect6 26 games running, 11 groups
Dots and Boxes 31 games running, 10 groups
Go 19x19 minimum 62 games running, 28 groups
Word Game 123 games running, 13 groups
Havannah 202 games running, 15 groups
Reversi minimum 438 games running, 19 groups
Four in a row minimum 448 games running, 24 groups
Hex 13x13 minimum 580 games running, 19 groups